Indeed. But I think you could get a lot closer in one jump if Mozilla made a loud noise for a while asking mozillans to add at least two tags, ‘mozilla’ plus at least one more of their choosing, to any new thread of discussion appearing anywhere online.

In combination with Yahoo pipes that output one unified feed that merges all the various outputs (a feed from del.icio.us, a feed from technorati, etc.), you’d get decentralized discourse with centralized visibility.

If you wanted to monitor worldwide discussion of, say, ‘mozilla’ + ‘platform’, just click on the pipe…

love, raiph

Mozilla Foundation
“What Would You Do?”

(No, I’m not a MoFo staffer. Just pitching a slogan idea…)

Indeed. But I think you could get a lot closer in one jump if Mozilla made a loud noise for a while asking mozillans to add at least two tags, ‘mozilla’ plus at least one more of their choosing, to any new thread of discussion appearing anywhere online.

In combination with Yahoo pipes that output one unified feed that merges all the various outputs (a feed from del.icio.us, a feed from technorati, etc.), you’d get decentralized discourse with centralized visibility.

If you wanted to monitor worldwide discussion of, say, ‘mozilla’ + ‘platform’, just click on the pipe…

love, raiph

Mozilla Foundation
“What Would You Do?”

(No, I’m not a MoFo staffer. Just pitching a slogan idea…)

but there are lots of conversations that happen in the space between blogs, of course. some from xul developers, some not. joost, for example, is mostly heads down doing work on the platform and not getting too involved in this discussion.

conversations are happening every single day in japanese (check mozillagumi) and chinese and polish, but they’re not getting centralized, either.

there are a ton of voices that i know of — the folks that are most in the echo chamber here tend to be English-speaking, Silicon Valley-oriented, engineering types — one of our most important groups of people (and i’m one of them), but i’m not too sure how to be both completely decentralized and wholly knowable. it’s something we struggle some with.

As for folks taking things personally — I think that’s okay as long as they can detach their ego from the feedback. It’s not helpful when folks lash out because they don’t want to hear the feedback, whether true or not, simply because they have a weak ego. Many folks actually responded directly, in very open, honest and constructive ways, and I was thrilled to have that kind of feedback. It’s really changed my thinking and alerted me to things that were invisible to me.

At the same time, now that these issues are out there, I’m still having a hard time tracking the conversation. It’s like I feel like a lot of people have been talking about this stuff, but besides a couple dozen posts from a small subset of authors, I’ve not seen the widespread discussions that I’ve seen mentioned a number of times. That suggests to me that there is still an underground current of conversation that is not being aired and could be put out there more prominently.

So, I’ll attempt to get my post out there sooner than later; the longer I wait, the more stale it gets. And I appreciate all that you’ve added to the discussion so far; it’s certainly been helpful and refreshing.

but there are lots of conversations that happen in the space between blogs, of course. some from xul developers, some not. joost, for example, is mostly heads down doing work on the platform and not getting too involved in this discussion.

conversations are happening every single day in japanese (check mozillagumi) and chinese and polish, but they’re not getting centralized, either.

there are a ton of voices that i know of — the folks that are most in the echo chamber here tend to be English-speaking, Silicon Valley-oriented, engineering types — one of our most important groups of people (and i’m one of them), but i’m not too sure how to be both completely decentralized and wholly knowable. it’s something we struggle some with.

As for folks taking things personally — I think that’s okay as long as they can detach their ego from the feedback. It’s not helpful when folks lash out because they don’t want to hear the feedback, whether true or not, simply because they have a weak ego. Many folks actually responded directly, in very open, honest and constructive ways, and I was thrilled to have that kind of feedback. It’s really changed my thinking and alerted me to things that were invisible to me.

At the same time, now that these issues are out there, I’m still having a hard time tracking the conversation. It’s like I feel like a lot of people have been talking about this stuff, but besides a couple dozen posts from a small subset of authors, I’ve not seen the widespread discussions that I’ve seen mentioned a number of times. That suggests to me that there is still an underground current of conversation that is not being aired and could be put out there more prominently.

So, I’ll attempt to get my post out there sooner than later; the longer I wait, the more stale it gets. And I appreciate all that you’ve added to the discussion so far; it’s certainly been helpful and refreshing.