Comments on: The “messy” version http://john.jubjubs.net/2007/06/16/the-messy-version/ my semi-regular stream of consciousness Fri, 12 Mar 2010 12:22:15 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Aslam Nathoo http://john.jubjubs.net/2007/06/16/the-messy-version/#comment-574 Aslam Nathoo Wed, 20 Jun 2007 09:04:10 +0000 http://john.jubjubs.net/2007/06/16/the-messy-version/#comment-574 You forgot to mention that Safari is based on Webkit which is an Open Source engine. They reinforced your message that Open Source and standards-compliant is good. You must acknowledge though that FireFox on Mac has issues. It is way too slow. I rarely use it whereas on Windows, I use it regularly. If you really wanted to hit back at Apple, you would make the next version of FF on Mac a true Mac App and not a second class port as it currently is. -Aslam You forgot to mention that Safari is based on Webkit which is an Open Source engine. They reinforced your message that Open Source and standards-compliant is good.

You must acknowledge though that FireFox on Mac has issues. It is way too slow. I rarely use it whereas on Windows, I use it regularly. If you really wanted to hit back at Apple, you would make the next version of FF on Mac a true Mac App and not a second class port as it currently is.

-Aslam

]]> By: Aslam Nathoo http://john.jubjubs.net/2007/06/16/the-messy-version/#comment-5633 Aslam Nathoo Wed, 20 Jun 2007 07:04:10 +0000 http://john.jubjubs.net/2007/06/16/the-messy-version/#comment-5633 You forgot to mention that Safari is based on Webkit which is an Open Source engine. They reinforced your message that Open Source and standards-compliant is good.<br><br>You must acknowledge though that FireFox on Mac has issues. It is way too slow. I rarely use it whereas on Windows, I use it regularly. If you really wanted to hit back at Apple, you would make the next version of FF on Mac a true Mac App and not a second class port as it currently is.<br><br>-Aslam You forgot to mention that Safari is based on Webkit which is an Open Source engine. They reinforced your message that Open Source and standards-compliant is good.

You must acknowledge though that FireFox on Mac has issues. It is way too slow. I rarely use it whereas on Windows, I use it regularly. If you really wanted to hit back at Apple, you would make the next version of FF on Mac a true Mac App and not a second class port as it currently is.

-Aslam

]]> By: Peer Pressure http://john.jubjubs.net/2007/06/16/the-messy-version/#comment-543 Peer Pressure Mon, 18 Jun 2007 15:00:48 +0000 http://john.jubjubs.net/2007/06/16/the-messy-version/#comment-543 <strong>Does Firefox Market Share Matter?...</strong> John Lilly, Mozilla’s COO, clarifies his stance on Apple’s Safari strategy after his previous missive attracted more attention than expected. (Writing about Steve Jobs is always a great way to pump the ol’ traffic stats.) He hits on a... Does Firefox Market Share Matter?…

John Lilly, Mozilla’s COO, clarifies his stance on Apple’s Safari strategy after his previous missive attracted more attention than expected. (Writing about Steve Jobs is always a great way to pump the ol’ traffic stats.)
He hits on a…

]]> By: Peer Pressure http://john.jubjubs.net/2007/06/16/the-messy-version/#comment-5632 Peer Pressure Mon, 18 Jun 2007 13:00:48 +0000 http://john.jubjubs.net/2007/06/16/the-messy-version/#comment-5632 <strong>Does Firefox Market Share Matter?...</strong><br><br>John Lilly, Mozilla’s COO, clarifies his stance on Apple’s Safari strategy after his previous missive attracted more attention than expected. (Writing about Steve Jobs is always a great way to pump the ol’ traffic stats.)<br>He hits on a... Does Firefox Market Share Matter?…

John Lilly, Mozilla’s COO, clarifies his stance on Apple’s Safari strategy after his previous missive attracted more attention than expected. (Writing about Steve Jobs is always a great way to pump the ol’ traffic stats.)
He hits on a…

]]> By: Jeff Waugh http://john.jubjubs.net/2007/06/16/the-messy-version/#comment-530 Jeff Waugh Sun, 17 Jun 2007 19:52:50 +0000 http://john.jubjubs.net/2007/06/16/the-messy-version/#comment-530 <em>But we have to protect that by calling out efforts to the contrary, whether they’re intentional, accidental, or just because people don’t take the time to draw the messy version of the picture.</em> That's <b>precisely</b> what I was thinking when I whipped up this <a href="http://perkypants.org/blog/2007/06/17/firefox-still-saving-the-web/" rel="nofollow">silly picture</a>. :-) But we have to protect that by calling out efforts to the contrary, whether they’re intentional, accidental, or just because people don’t take the time to draw the messy version of the picture.

That’s precisely what I was thinking when I whipped up this silly picture. :-)

]]> By: Jeff Waugh http://john.jubjubs.net/2007/06/16/the-messy-version/#comment-5631 Jeff Waugh Sun, 17 Jun 2007 17:52:50 +0000 http://john.jubjubs.net/2007/06/16/the-messy-version/#comment-5631 <em>But we have to protect that by calling out efforts to the contrary, whether they’re intentional, accidental, or just because people don’t take the time to draw the messy version of the picture.</em><br><br>That's <b>precisely</b> what I was thinking when I whipped up this <a href="http://perkypants.org/blog/2007/06/17/firefox-still-saving-the-web/" rel="nofollow">silly picture</a>. :-) But we have to protect that by calling out efforts to the contrary, whether they’re intentional, accidental, or just because people don’t take the time to draw the messy version of the picture.

That’s precisely what I was thinking when I whipped up this silly picture. :-)

]]> By: dollslikeus http://john.jubjubs.net/2007/06/16/the-messy-version/#comment-527 dollslikeus Sun, 17 Jun 2007 12:32:55 +0000 http://john.jubjubs.net/2007/06/16/the-messy-version/#comment-527 I have never had the oppurtunity to use a mac I have always owned windows . It's not that I think windows is better it is just what is for sale at more places some of my friends in digital editing classes I have taken have told me a mac is better having never used one I don't have a opinion I have never had the oppurtunity to use a mac I have always owned windows . It’s not that I think windows is better it is just what is for sale at more places some of my friends in digital editing classes I have taken have told me a mac is better having never used one I don’t have a opinion

]]> By: dollslikeus http://john.jubjubs.net/2007/06/16/the-messy-version/#comment-5630 dollslikeus Sun, 17 Jun 2007 10:32:55 +0000 http://john.jubjubs.net/2007/06/16/the-messy-version/#comment-5630 I have never had the oppurtunity to use a mac I have always owned windows . It's not that I think windows is better it is just what is for sale at more places some of my friends in digital editing classes I have taken have told me a mac is better having never used one I don't have a opinion I have never had the oppurtunity to use a mac I have always owned windows . It’s not that I think windows is better it is just what is for sale at more places some of my friends in digital editing classes I have taken have told me a mac is better having never used one I don’t have a opinion

]]> By: patrick http://john.jubjubs.net/2007/06/16/the-messy-version/#comment-519 patrick Sun, 17 Jun 2007 01:19:59 +0000 http://john.jubjubs.net/2007/06/16/the-messy-version/#comment-519 I remember when Firefox finally came out of beta and i went around downloading it on all the school computers and trying to get everyone else to switch. Now that I use Macs, Firefox doesn't see to much use but still some. I hope one day with Mozilla and Apple together can destroy the IE monopoly. If we are lucky, IE wont exist in 10 years :) I remember when Firefox finally came out of beta and i went around downloading it on all the school computers and trying to get everyone else to switch. Now that I use Macs, Firefox doesn’t see to much use but still some. I hope one day with Mozilla and Apple together can destroy the IE monopoly. If we are lucky, IE wont exist in 10 years :)

]]> By: patrick http://john.jubjubs.net/2007/06/16/the-messy-version/#comment-5629 patrick Sat, 16 Jun 2007 23:19:59 +0000 http://john.jubjubs.net/2007/06/16/the-messy-version/#comment-5629 I remember when Firefox finally came out of beta and i went around downloading it on all the school computers and trying to get everyone else to switch. Now that I use Macs, Firefox doesn't see to much use but still some. I hope one day with Mozilla and Apple together can destroy the IE monopoly. If we are lucky, IE wont exist in 10 years :) I remember when Firefox finally came out of beta and i went around downloading it on all the school computers and trying to get everyone else to switch. Now that I use Macs, Firefox doesn’t see to much use but still some. I hope one day with Mozilla and Apple together can destroy the IE monopoly. If we are lucky, IE wont exist in 10 years :)

]]> By: Jon http://john.jubjubs.net/2007/06/16/the-messy-version/#comment-511 Jon Sat, 16 Jun 2007 22:17:33 +0000 http://john.jubjubs.net/2007/06/16/the-messy-version/#comment-511 Choice is good. The best / most appropriate choices come out on top - each one meets the need of an individual. But, I am really surprised how cut and dry Steve J made it appear... an oversight? Unlikely, knowing how rehearsed and immaculate he normally is... so was it measured and predatory? I honestly do not know. A little dissapointing ... Choice is good. The best / most appropriate choices come out on top – each one meets the need of an individual.

But, I am really surprised how cut and dry Steve J made it appear… an oversight? Unlikely, knowing how rehearsed and immaculate he normally is… so was it measured and predatory? I honestly do not know. A little dissapointing …

]]> By: Jon http://john.jubjubs.net/2007/06/16/the-messy-version/#comment-5628 Jon Sat, 16 Jun 2007 20:17:33 +0000 http://john.jubjubs.net/2007/06/16/the-messy-version/#comment-5628 Choice is good. The best / most appropriate choices come out on top - each one meets the need of an individual.<br><br>But, I am really surprised how cut and dry Steve J made it appear... an oversight? Unlikely, knowing how rehearsed and immaculate he normally is... so was it measured and predatory? I honestly do not know. A little dissapointing ... Choice is good. The best / most appropriate choices come out on top – each one meets the need of an individual.

But, I am really surprised how cut and dry Steve J made it appear… an oversight? Unlikely, knowing how rehearsed and immaculate he normally is… so was it measured and predatory? I honestly do not know. A little dissapointing …

]]> By: erwan http://john.jubjubs.net/2007/06/16/the-messy-version/#comment-506 erwan Sat, 16 Jun 2007 18:50:30 +0000 http://john.jubjubs.net/2007/06/16/the-messy-version/#comment-506 Well, that's notorious that the "Coke vs Pepsi" commercials benefit to both companies. When Coke "attacks" Pepsi they're actually helping the idea that the choice is between the 2 companies, and other don't exist. That's the same idea behind the "Mac or PC" stuff. The user feels he has choice because he has 2 possibilities, but this fake choice is destroying any chance for a third competitor. Well, that’s notorious that the “Coke vs Pepsi” commercials benefit to both companies. When Coke “attacks” Pepsi they’re actually helping the idea that the choice is between the 2 companies, and other don’t exist. That’s the same idea behind the “Mac or PC” stuff.

The user feels he has choice because he has 2 possibilities, but this fake choice is destroying any chance for a third competitor.

]]> By: erwan http://john.jubjubs.net/2007/06/16/the-messy-version/#comment-5627 erwan Sat, 16 Jun 2007 16:50:30 +0000 http://john.jubjubs.net/2007/06/16/the-messy-version/#comment-5627 Well, that's notorious that the "Coke vs Pepsi" commercials benefit to both companies. When Coke "attacks" Pepsi they're actually helping the idea that the choice is between the 2 companies, and other don't exist. That's the same idea behind the "Mac or PC" stuff.<br><br>The user feels he has choice because he has 2 possibilities, but this fake choice is destroying any chance for a third competitor. Well, that’s notorious that the “Coke vs Pepsi” commercials benefit to both companies. When Coke “attacks” Pepsi they’re actually helping the idea that the choice is between the 2 companies, and other don’t exist. That’s the same idea behind the “Mac or PC” stuff.

The user feels he has choice because he has 2 possibilities, but this fake choice is destroying any chance for a third competitor.

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