Nobody else, but those who work for animals, can move me anymore.
If mankind had the same interest in helping animals as he as an individual has, we – and animals – would live in Paradise. But not a fictive one, but a true and realistic paradise, because it would be possible; only goodness of people is lacking. This is what Willie Smits – and all those who help animals – have.
I red about the Malarie of orangutangs, I wish to hear some more of it.

But I think he needs more than an hour – so much to learn from him about the way that he thinks about problems. But not enough time for him to go into details.